Sat 15 Sep 2007
The Ubiquitous Valjoux 7750 Movement
Posted by The Breitling Source under General Posts[33] Comments
For those of you well-versed in watch movements this may not be anything new for you, but to many of you guys who aren’t that familiar, this is a handy primer.
Most of us that buy and collect watches have heard of the ETA Valjoux 7750 Movement. The movement was designed in 1974 and in it’s present day format is a 25 Jewel, 28,800 vph chronograph. More info on the movement itself can be found on Timezone.
The Valjoux is seemingly everywhere. It seems like nearly every single Automatic Chronograph watch out there not using an in-house movement has a Valjoux 7750 in it. The Valjoux 7750 is by far the most common swiss made chronograph movement in production, with the ETA 2894-2 in second with a 37 Jewel movement. The ETA 2894-2 differs in that it uses a base 2892-2 with a chronograph module attached. The Valjoux 7750 is a purebred Chronograph.
The interesting thing about the Valjoux 7750 movement is that watches using the base movement can be found as low as $1000 to as high as $10,000, if not higher, depending on the level of modification and *cough* marketing. I’m going briefly go over and describe several of the watches on the market that use this movement, throughout the pricerange:
Eterna Airforce
MSRP: $1650 Online: $800 approx.
The Eterna’s represent some of the best deals in the Swiss watch industry, with their watches up there in quality with Tag Heuer. They used to be quite the force in the watch industry, pioneering many watchmaking firsts, but now have slowed down. They also produce watches exclusively for Porsche Design. Movements are largely stock with decorated rotors.
Hamilton X-Wind
MSRP: $1050 Online: $900 approx.
Hamilton is an American brand that produces swiss made watches, with a focus on value and nice looking peices quite often with exhibition backs. Movements are stock Valjoux 7750’s with little modification, mostly decoration. The X-Wind is one of their nicest designs in my opinion.
Oris TT1 Chronograph
MSRP: $2375 Online: $1200 approx.
I personally am not a fan of most Oris designs, but they make a nice watch. The TT1 is popular and a good performer, and Oris does some modifications to their movements to improve performance.
Tag Heuer Aquaracer Automatic Chronograph
MSRP: $2300 Online: $1800 approx.
That uses the Caliber 16 in this model, and for double the price of the Hamilton X-Wind you get a Certified Chronometre movement. The Aquaracer is a nice watch with a substantially upgraded movement.
Fortis B-42 Pilot Professional Chronograph
MSRP: $2995 Online: $1900 approx.
Fortis does minimal modifications to the movement, and it is not a certified chronometre. Their watches are nice and offer a good deal in the lower end of the spectrum but their higher end watches do not give much bang for buck. In this price range the watch should be a Chronometre.
Breitling Chrono SuperOcean
MSRP: $3500 Online: $2600 approx.
Breitling’s entry level Valjoux 7750 Chronometer Movement using the Breitling Caliber 13. This caliber is used in many of their watches including the Super Avenger and the next one in this list. This is a COSC certified Chronometre, with substantial modification, but too bad Breitling doesn’t do many exhibition backs to show it off!
Breitling Chronomat Evolution
MSRP: $5100 Online: $3600 approx.
This is one of the higher end models using the Caliber 13. There is also the Breitling for Bentley GT that uses a similar 7750 based movement (13B). As you can see the Online pricing is about $1000 more, but all the extra goes into the case and bracelet, not the movement!
IWC Portugese
MSRP: $6700 (up to $14,000 or so in gold) Online: $5100 approx.
This is one of the more expensive watches out there with the Valjoux 7750 based movement, especially in gold. With a highly modified Valjoux 7750 movement called the Calibre 79350, it is probably the highest quality movement of this lot, but without the COSC Certification. IWC rarely certifies their watches.
So that is a brief roundup of some of the watches available in the range with the Valjoux 7750 base movement. Hope this article was informative for you guys!
EDITED TO ADD (06/07/2008):
An email from a reader that is very interesting:
Hi,
I just looked at your useful info on the venerable workhorse of chronographs the 7750. I thought you might be amused to know the Hublot Big Bang also seems to use this movement and has to be the most expensive watch using it. So far as I could tell from the Hublot website and from handling a Hublot in their local dealer the movement is not extensively modified, thought the rotor is unique to Hublot….
The cheapest 7750 movement watches are some Chinese made chronographs, not all of these are knock offs, some are labelled with their own labels and some are nice watches.
I wrote an article on “How Swiss is Swiss” as an introduction to watch movement sources…. Here is the link in case you’re interested: http://reviews.ebay.com/How-Swiss-is-Swiss-Made_W0QQugidZ10000000001042431
At least Switzerland has a legal definition of Swiss Made. germany doesn’t with the result that there are now a bunch of Chinese made watches out there masquerading as Made in Germany, “Junkers” is an example…. I haven’t checked if the brand name is owned by a German company but if so I expect that’s the limit of Germaness about their watches. Don’t get me wrong, they are pukka mechanical watches and anything that keeps that industry going is a good thing in my book but to any one who knows the movements are so patently made in China it’s almost funny.
Cheers
Julian
March 24th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Hi
some really good informative stuff here it’s EXACTLY the information I’m looking for but on the Baume & Mercier Capeland S Chronograph which I also believe has a modified 7750. The COSC certified aspects of the marketplace equivalents offer a certain validation of precision etc but I was wondering what I could expect if I opted for the B&M – do you know anything about this model’s variation (BM 13750 ?)by any chance ?
April 14th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
can you get the super avenger with the double diamond bezel swiss made 7750 replica please e mail me your web link to view pics and info
May 20th, 2008 at 8:40 am
If the Caliber 16 7750 in the Aquaracer is a chornometer grade movement, would you also think the caliber 16 in the Carrera Chornograph is the same thing? I would think they’d name it something else if not.
Thank you
Ryan
May 20th, 2008 at 8:53 am
If they are both Caliber 16’s then they are the Same. The Valjoux 7750 Is a “Chronometer Grade” movement, as evidenced by the many Valjoux 7750 based Chronoemeters out there. Whether or not it is COSC Certified is another matter altogether.
July 8th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I sit also available with the navitime?
July 8th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Yes, some models of the Navitimer also use this base movement.
July 10th, 2008 at 7:06 am
The Bentley Mulliner Tourbillion has a ref# stating with L. Is the watch case 18kt white gold with a platinum bezel or is it a platinum case with a white gold bezel? I checed a realised the speed bracelt for it is Platinum. Help me please
July 10th, 2008 at 11:55 am
The Mulliner Tourbillon came in any case material you wanted.. Platinum, Gold, White Gold or Rose Gold. I do not believe it came in steel but I’m sure you could have it made in steel if you really wanted to.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:52 am
Hier einige Beispiele für Valjoux 7750. Gruß Pai
August 9th, 2008 at 8:57 am
Don’t forget some of the Tissot watches use the 7750 movement.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:24 am
We have genuine ETA 7750 movements with factory packing. Interested and serious customers only may only inquire
November 9th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I have a tudor Tiger Chronograph which has a 7750. Did Rolex ever use the Valjoux?
November 16th, 2008 at 4:29 am
The new ‘organic’ kid on the high end watch block: NUBEO is also using 7750 movement.
Lemme ask you. What does the numbers 7750 mean, exactly.
Tempuss fukit
November 25th, 2008 at 11:19 am
are replicas for about $600 use real ETA as some claim they do or are they Asian imitation of some sort?
In addition could you elaborate a little and give your expert opinion on those Asian ETA’s
thank you so much
November 25th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Depends on the Fake. I do not condone buying Fakes.
January 6th, 2010 at 6:37 am
I own three watches with the Valjoux 7750 movement, e.g. 2 x Sinn; 1 x Longines. All three display similar eroneous behaviour, which I have also reported to Sinn, because I believe they will do something about it. If you activate the chrono module and stop and re-start it over a period of, say, 4 hours, without actually resetting it to “zero”, the hours counter becomes “confused”. It does not display the elapsed time correctly any longer. It may be a chronometer grade movement but I do not regard it as a reliable chronograph movement.
March 3rd, 2010 at 7:01 pm
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April 14th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Hei!Take a look at http://www.jswatch.com. A Icelandic “watch factory” that makes a beautiful watches., and they use a Valjoux 7750 in some of there watches.
July 18th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Hi been told by a jeweler friend that the swiss made ETA 7750 movements can be bought for as little as £5 straight from the manafacturer,
And that a lot of fake Rolex/ breitling,
now have the Eta 7750 movements in them, true or false
July 18th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Not likely, unliess your jeweler friend has some good connections. Granted, if he’s really your friend, I don’t know why he’d lie to you so maybe he is just very well connected. Valjoux 7750 movements typically cost around $300-400, depending on where you get them, and can cost more depending on the level of finish. Most fakes do NOT have ETA 7750’s in them, they have the Chinese made 7750, which actually costs more than 5 pounds too, but then again, maybe your friend has a good hook up.
September 17th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
just wondering if you could tell me which movement chanel uses in the J12 superleggera purchased around 2005 as I know it is a certified movement but that is all
Thanks
June 4th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
I have a Breitling Chronomat Evolution H 13355 I would like to know how many turns per day and which direction so I can get a watch winder and which one you recommend please. Patrick
June 6th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Not all watchwinders are caluculated by TPD, so you need to consult the watch winder maker to determine the proper setting for your watch. Companies like Orbita have a list of all watches and the setting appropriate for that watch.
If you are planning to just get a generic chinese winder, then you could probably google Turns Per Day Valjoux 7750 and you should be able to get that info. The Valjoux 7750 that is in your Chronomat only winds clockwise.
April 24th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
If you only want the chronograph movement without the marketing cost and the “improvements” which frankly the majority are just visual improvements, there are several smaller brands using ETA 7750 and ETA 7753. My favorite one is Uhren von UHR (www.uhr.info) small german company using only ETA movements without any marketing costs and so called improvements. Considering that the movement cost is over 250EUR a 500-600EUR for the UHR chronographs is the best price om market.
April 24th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Indeed, one of many, many Swiss and German boutique watch companies that sell watches at that price point using the Valjoux 7750.
January 22nd, 2013 at 4:52 am
Hi. I have an Appella solid 18ct gold 823-4111 chronograph which uses the modern 7750 movement. I can’t find any similar models as I would like to add to my collection. Do yo know this manufacturer and model? What sort of prices are out there? Thanks, Paul
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:08 am
Hi, sorry I’m not familiar with the Appella brand. Perhaps try contacting one of their distributors?
March 5th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
I am considering purchasing a Invicta Subaqua 6523 which also has this movement, can anyone inform me if “Invicta” is a well known and trusted brand, as I have never heard of them here in Australia,
regards,
Zed
March 25th, 2013 at 11:09 am
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May 5th, 2014 at 4:04 pm
The above website is a replica site which, among others, offers Breitlings. Of note is that they’re advertising them with a Swiss Valjoux 7750 Movement. Really?
May 6th, 2014 at 5:54 pm
Probably a Chinese 7750.
December 22nd, 2014 at 7:37 am
Have a look at Invicta, I just order a Subaqua Noma 1 valjoux 7750 limited edition (Invicta #10482). Only 1000 were produce.And all that only for 500$ (MSRP: 3499$). Its a Swiss Made watch, nice quality and very nice looking. I think its the best value for your money if you want a full swiss made watch with a Valjous/ETA 7750 movement.
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:00 pm
Agreed – Invicta is definitely a great value brand. While their MSRP are over-inflated, at their street price they are a solid value.